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		<title>Comment on Christian Undertones in Tolkien&#8217;s City Plan by ilverai</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilverai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be right in the resemblance between the two.  It may be due to Tolkien&#039;s familiarity with Dante, or the fact that they both had the same Christian symbols at their disposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be right in the resemblance between the two.  It may be due to Tolkien&#8217;s familiarity with Dante, or the fact that they both had the same Christian symbols at their disposal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Samwise Gamgee: True Hobbit, Unlikely Hero by ilverai</title>
		<link>http://ilverai.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/samwise-gamgee-true-hobbit-unlikely-hero/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>ilverai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome...good luck with your report!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome&#8230;good luck with your report!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Samwise Gamgee: True Hobbit, Unlikely Hero by daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx sams my fav char and u help me w/ my book report lol thx</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Folly of Saruman, Afterthought by ilverai</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilverai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you recall Tolkien&#039;s views on evil, to delve to deeply into evil is to enter into evil and allow it purchase in your life.  If he held this truth, the lack of detail in his villains makes perfect sense.

Though I think that the main focus of much of his writing is not necessarily evil, but the folly of evil and those struggling against it.  This again accounts for the greater level of personalization and characterization of Saruman and Gollum.  Tolkien was most interested in &quot;the fall&quot; rather than the state of evil.  Conversly, he dealt greatly with the notion of salvation and conversion from evil.  This is true for both the &quot;detailed&quot; villains...the protagonists are always offering the olive branch...sometimes to be rebuffed, but in others to lead to conversion, if only temporary.

One other thing to think on is this: Saruman, as a maia always desired order and precision.  He saw the way to victory through control, through knowledge, rather than human will.  This ultimately, a character flaw, leads to his final fall...furthered by his unyielding pride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you recall Tolkien&#8217;s views on evil, to delve to deeply into evil is to enter into evil and allow it purchase in your life.  If he held this truth, the lack of detail in his villains makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>Though I think that the main focus of much of his writing is not necessarily evil, but the folly of evil and those struggling against it.  This again accounts for the greater level of personalization and characterization of Saruman and Gollum.  Tolkien was most interested in &#8220;the fall&#8221; rather than the state of evil.  Conversly, he dealt greatly with the notion of salvation and conversion from evil.  This is true for both the &#8220;detailed&#8221; villains&#8230;the protagonists are always offering the olive branch&#8230;sometimes to be rebuffed, but in others to lead to conversion, if only temporary.</p>
<p>One other thing to think on is this: Saruman, as a maia always desired order and precision.  He saw the way to victory through control, through knowledge, rather than human will.  This ultimately, a character flaw, leads to his final fall&#8230;furthered by his unyielding pride.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Folly of Saruman, Afterthought by matthewgraybosch</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthewgraybosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering Tolkien&#039;s warnings about delving too deep into the ways of the Enemy, I wonder of Tolkien was at all familiar with Nietzsche&#039;s warning in &lt;i&gt;Beyond Good and Evil&lt;/i&gt; that &quot;Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.&quot;

I&#039;ve always seen Saruman as the true villain of &lt;i&gt;The Lord of the Rings&lt;/i&gt;, rather than Sauron. Sauron always struck me as too impersonal, more a force of malignant nature than a proper villain. Saruman, however, is different. He has a personality of sorts. He sought power to oppose evil, but forgot his reasons for seeking power in the first place once he began to achieve it. He lost sight of his original ideals, and his original purpose: to lead the people of Middle-Earth against Sauron by inspiring them and offering wisdom, rather than taking command himself. Saruman spent too long staring into an abyss that stared back at him, and became the monster he had set out to oppose.

I wonder if Saruman himself fully understood what he had done. I&#039;m not sure he does, since Tolkien never really delves too deeply into the motivations of his antagonists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering Tolkien&#8217;s warnings about delving too deep into the ways of the Enemy, I wonder of Tolkien was at all familiar with Nietzsche&#8217;s warning in <i>Beyond Good and Evil</i> that &#8220;Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always seen Saruman as the true villain of <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>, rather than Sauron. Sauron always struck me as too impersonal, more a force of malignant nature than a proper villain. Saruman, however, is different. He has a personality of sorts. He sought power to oppose evil, but forgot his reasons for seeking power in the first place once he began to achieve it. He lost sight of his original ideals, and his original purpose: to lead the people of Middle-Earth against Sauron by inspiring them and offering wisdom, rather than taking command himself. Saruman spent too long staring into an abyss that stared back at him, and became the monster he had set out to oppose.</p>
<p>I wonder if Saruman himself fully understood what he had done. I&#8217;m not sure he does, since Tolkien never really delves too deeply into the motivations of his antagonists.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Get off the Road&#8230;Quick!&#8221; by Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 02:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have raised some very interesting points - I think it really is hard to draw the line between the influence of the ring and the natural emotions that Frodo would feel. Perhaps this is one of the things that makes Tolkien&#039;s work so intricate and brilliant. I really can&#039;t get enough of the Lord of the Ring Books - I&#039;ve just recently switched over to listening to audio books and was pleasantly surprised to find that it&#039;s possible to get the trilogy and the Hobbit in one set at http://www.audiobooks.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have raised some very interesting points &#8211; I think it really is hard to draw the line between the influence of the ring and the natural emotions that Frodo would feel. Perhaps this is one of the things that makes Tolkien&#8217;s work so intricate and brilliant. I really can&#8217;t get enough of the Lord of the Ring Books &#8211; I&#8217;ve just recently switched over to listening to audio books and was pleasantly surprised to find that it&#8217;s possible to get the trilogy and the Hobbit in one set at <a href="http://www.audiobooks.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.audiobooks.net</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A quick comment by RaiulBaztepo</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaiulBaztepo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!
Very Interesting post! Thank you for such interesting resource! 
PS: Sorry for my bad english, I&#039;v just started to learn this language ;)
See you! 
Your, Raiul Baztepo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!<br />
Very Interesting post! Thank you for such interesting resource!<br />
PS: Sorry for my bad english, I&#8217;v just started to learn this language <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
See you!<br />
Your, Raiul Baztepo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolkien Reading Day and Eucatastrophe by Tolkien once again &#171; A Sip of Jasmine Tea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tolkien once again &#171; A Sip of Jasmine Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just came upon a blog post from yesterday about how March 25th (today!) is &#8220;Tolkien reading day&#8221;.  Hmm&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just came upon a blog post from yesterday about how March 25th (today!) is &#8220;Tolkien reading day&#8221;.  Hmm&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolkien Reading Day and Eucatastrophe by Lady Carmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just passing through! I found this while double-checking to make sure we had the day right before we celebrated today.

Nice blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just passing through! I found this while double-checking to make sure we had the day right before we celebrated today.</p>
<p>Nice blog!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Undertones in Tolkien&#8217;s City Plan by Emilydt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emilydt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you, bro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, bro</p>
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